Posts Tagged ‘bass drum’

Wednesday June 17 – an email I sent to Ron and Dave:

Thursday, July 23rd, 2009


I played around a bit with those drum tracks through my headphones in Logic… The 58 on the floor tom has to go. It’s picking up a weird resonance form the bass drum. When the floor tom is hit it sounds OK, but the rest of the kit ambient sound does not sound good through the 58.

As Ron suggested I think we will try our tiny condenser pencil mics on the toms, hopefully that will give a more focused detailed sound. I have always preferred condenser mics to dynamics for just about anything anyway. That would free up some 57s to put on the guitar cabs, and maybe even a 57 to mic the bottom of the snare for extra sizzle.

The 57 on the rack tom sounded fine, but I still think I would like to retune those toms. The bottom heads are off enough to cause some ugly dissonance.

Also we need to balance out the overheads. When I sat down at the kit tonight I saw that the overhead- drummer right – was out of place – damn cheap stands move too easy. Don’t know if that happened before or after the test recording, but if it was before, that explains what I hear.

I think it would be wise to try to work on this a bit more, perhaps just Ron and I can experiment and Dave can fine tune the next time he is here. I know we can do better than what we got, although it wasn’t bad at all.

One thing about headphones is I can hear these subtle details like a mic out of place, but they sure don’t move air like a real speaker – the bass drum doesn’t slam you with headphones like a monitor does –  so now I see why both are important.

Joe

Tuesday June 16 – Day 1 – Drum Set up and Test:

Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009

Ron and drummer, Dave met at my house so we could set up. We moved my 60s Gretsch drumset out of the way (too jazzy sounding with the heads I have on right now) to make room for the kit we will be using for the recording – a vintage 60s Pearl kit that sounds great. We’ll be using the hardware and cymbals from my drum kit as well as one of my vintage Ludwig snares – a 1967 Supraphonic. I read somewhere that that is the most recorded snare drum in history. That seems appropriate for this project – plus one for the statistics.

Dave set up the drums and tuned the heads while Ron was setting the recording rig up. Meanwhile I set up the mic stands, chose the mics used, and ran the mic cables to the Mackie. Then we took a dinner break before going back into my home studio and continued with some testing.


The mics we ended up using were small diaphragm condensers as overheads set up in a stereo A/B configuration. We close miced the snare and toms with Shure Sm 57s and an SM 58 on the floor tom, since we were out of 57s to work with at that point. We put an Audio Technica 4033 on the bass drum, since we didn’t have a proper Bass drum mic. I wasn’t sure how that was going to turn out, but to my surprise that mic sounded great on the bass drum. We can EQ that to taste later in the mix.

Some photos of the set up: (pardon the blurry photos. I tried to get some photos without flash to capture the ambience and all I had at the time is my wife’s point and shoot camera).